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Occasionally I wandered in where I was not wanted and gave truthful answers.
Sometimes I even did it deliberately. A little disruption now can prevent disaster later.
modern adult pagans

NeoNote — First lesson

Fair warning. If you persist, you're going to feel very foolish and personally attacked. It will be due entirely to your own actions, although you will bend over backwards to blame the commenters here. I know you won't be thinking about this rationally because you believe you have a greater truth to pass along.

Walk away. It's not worth the pain you'll inflict on yourself.



If you could be bothered to ask about Divinity in general, I'd say that my personal path doesn't recognize a sharp division between the universe and Divinity. Or between humanity and our Elder Relatives. We were given a Spark of Divinity, it's up to us to Manifest and pass it along.

But you're not up to dealing with that. No, this is the drive-by, where you drop "ultimate truths" and then Run Away Really Fast, all while congratulating yourself on your courage for facing those Nasty Unbelievers.

Of course, you could stop trying to preach and actually pay attention to what people are willing to share. You might even learn something.



You're trying to put your labels on my belief.

More accurately, you're trying to cram my gods and my experience behind your godmask.

So here's your first lesson. The Divine is beyond human understanding or limits. What you choose to perceive is the godmask that protects your safety. As long as you huddle behind what someone else has told you about Divinity, you'll always be less than you could be.

Gods make you stretch.



Now now. The price of this talk is that you have to let go of the Story at least for a little bit. Stop depending on what you've been taught and start looking for what you don't know.



See there you go again. I tell you that you have to let go and then you grab tighter. You sought us out, you decided to confront us. You don't get to decide the rules we use. But if you want to learn, you'll have to give up the rules you know.

Do you have courage enough?



Arguments?

Why should I argue? I'm not trying to justify anything.

I'm just pointing out some of the things you don't know.

NeoNotes are the selected comments that I made on other boards, in email, or in response to articles where I could not respond directly.

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Will this solve the problem?

The Moral Guardians® have taken for themselves the exclusive power to decide who will and will not be heard. Or read. Or even mentioned.

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NeoNote — Taking a stand against politics in paganism

Seriously though, there are some issues that only touch on politics indirectly that we as pagans should be concerned about. Free speech is a big one. There are some who are convinced that if someone offends them, that person should removed from living memory and never allowed to speak again. There are some that believe that anyone designated a victim should have priority to speak and judge if others have a right to speak.
— NeoWayland
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Culture war

What used to be about physical safety or aggressive hate speech that puts a reasonable person in fear of assault has been defined down. Way down. Now, in hardcore SJW circles, any trace of ideological impurity, mild disagreement with the party line, or simply failing to kiss the asses of the leaders means you are "making them feel unsafe" and therefore subject to banning.
— Kenneth Goze
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Revived - November 23, 2018

These blog entries have been reformatted and entered into the current directories. Redirect pages have been placed in the old locations.

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❝I'm pretty sure that the World can take care of Herself❞

I'm pretty sure that the World can take care of Herself, maybe with a little help from her Consort.

It's the rest of us I am not so sure about.
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NeoNote — Where do pagans fit in?

If you ask the question of thirteen pagans, you'd probably get forty-seven answers.

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Ro3 № 18

Pay attention to other people. Find out what's important to them. Make it important to you.
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Truly Proper

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Discussion on morality, sex, nudity, and pagan festivals

Here's part of a conversation I had with Shawn Herles

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That's what I do.

Evil spelled backwards is live. That's what I do.
— NeoWayland, October - updated
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Revived - November 16, 2018

These blog entries have been reformatted and entered into the current directories. Redirect pages have been placed in the old locations.

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Duality and non-duality

Non-duality is a great idea. Getting certain monotheists to see it's virtue is amazingly difficult. Anybody who can pull that off has my respect.

Getting certain polytheists to see monotheists as anything other than a Terrible Evil That Must Occasionally Be Endured is also amazingly difficult.

Sometimes it's way too easy to become what has hurt and threatened us. Even if we have to wound and bind ourselves to do it.
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Revived - November 9, 2018

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The Gods Do Not Vote

“If you are really a polytheist, then you must accept that the gods do not vote.”

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Doing something positive in the world

Several years ago, I heard what I think was best advice ever about improving the image of Paganism. Unfortunately I can’t remember who said it, but the gist of it was this:) Rather than coming out as Pagans and then trying to convince people we deserve to be on the school board or city council or whatever, we should join the school board or city council, show them we are good citizens and good people, and then come out as Pagans. It’s not about hiding our Paganism, so much as taking our focus off of ourselves and refocus it on doing something positive in the world (other than making the world more comfortable for Pagans). Changing the image people have of Pagans will then happen naturally, without us trying.
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Not this year

So I am going to skip the Befores this year.

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Unoriginal

That's because I keep having the same conversations again and again.

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How does it make the World better?

We're people, not legends.

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Us versus them

Anyway, my point was that seeing the world solely through an us vs them lens only increases the conflict and division in the world, and dehumanizes the people we think are Them. It's the root cause of why these Christian folks in the article think that the Druids are Satanists out to do terrible evil. Their specific religious justifications are only the surface level. At it's root it is the poison of dualistic thinking, the idea that the world and it's people can be divided into good and evil. And the poison of dualism can infect anyone, or any religion.
— Shawn Herles, comments from Wayist Druid public Samhain ritual draws threats
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NeoNote — Change the groups

Labels get in the way. I'm pagan, and there are pagans and Christians who are convinced that makes me progressive. There are some evangelical Christians who assumed that I was silly and naive because I was pagan. Then I tied them into semantic knots.
— NeoWayland
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❝ trying to make my way in a monotheistic world…❞

So here I was, trying to make my way in a monotheistic world when my heart and spirit kept telling me that there was more than one god. I did all the things that a good Christian was supposed to do, and a great many of the things that a good Christian isn't supposed to do. I kept looking for the voice of the Divine. I thought I was called to the ministry and that is why I hadn't found fulfillment in my life.

When I finally did here the voice of the Divine, it was female. And She was more than a bit put out that it had taken so long to get my attention.
— NeoWayland, Why are you Pagan?
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NeoNote — I don't think politics should be a part of paganism

But yes, this is between you and him.
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The pedestal problem

"The time has come," the Walrus said,
"To talk of many things:
Of shoes--and ships--and sealing-wax--
Of cabbages--and kings--
And why the sea is boiling hot--
And whether pigs have wings."
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I was born that way

I am Pagan because I was born that way, and because I made that choice long before I was born.
— NeoWayland, Why are you Pagan?
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NeoNote — Political hexing

As I said before, apparently the motivation for hexing Kavanaugh has moved from justice to attack.

This will have consequences, regardless of who did what where and when.
— NeoWayland
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On-line biding ritual

Me, I compare an on-the-fly online ritual to building one custom motorcycle in twenty different places with 459 mechanics and parts from thirteen manufacturers.

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NeoNote — Religion & responsiblity

Religions are not created by the Divine.

Religions are created by people claiming to speak for the Divine.
— NeoWayland
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NeoNote — Good and evil

Long story short, without monotheism, the meaning of good and evil aren't so clear cut. It tends to be more in the nature of "this HELPS my tribe/city/nation" and "this HURTS my tribe/city/nation." It becomes relative and based on cost/benefit. It depends more on individual judgement and less on an Official List of "THOU SHALT NOTS."

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NeoNote — #MeToo has hit modern neopaganism hard

Lately sex has also been one thing that drags politics into paganism. Politics corrupts, and I've no desire to see my faith or sex reduced to politics.
— NeoWayland
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Paganism isn't a movement

I don't think paganism is a movement. I think it's a life.
— NeoWayland
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NeoNote - White sage, Amerindians and virtue signalling

I never really have understood the whole cultural appropriation bit. Syncretism happens.

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NeoNote — Not about paganism

I can't even laugh at the irony anymore. These are the seeds that will destroy paganism in a way that monotheisms never could.

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Condemnation of memory

Someone is pulling your strings. You'd be a fool to accept that.

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Something else

I'm not something less, I'm something else.
— NeoWayland
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NeoNote — Responding to another Bookworm rant

For something with no moral relativism, there's an awful lot or relative morality going on.

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Worst experiences with paganism

Somehow it's always the other person who is supposed to sacrifice.

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Love & sex

Sex is exploding hormones. Love is commitment. The two should not be confused.
— NeoWayland, sex
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“Damnatio Memoriae, or How to Erase Someone from History”

“How do you remove the memory of a particularly bad emperor from the history books? Or what if your brother is just so annoying that you can't stand the sight of him anymore, and don't want to share power? You perform a damnatio memoriae, erase all inscriptions, destroy all public images, and pretend as if he never existed.”

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Anti-Christian

There was a time, a little more than a year, when I was very anti-Christian. Some of my relatives didn't help. But I didn't like the person that I was becoming.

There's an old idea, like calls to like. In the New Age vernacular, if you put positive energy out into the universe you get positive energy back.

But it's simpler than that. People cherish their passions. If you wrap yourself in hate and envy and despite, that will color your thoughts. That will be what rules you. That is what you will hold tightest in your secret heart. And that is what you will be. You won't have passion or power for anything else.
— NeoWayland
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In the name of inclusion

Far more erasure is happening at the hands of our own people than the old Christian fundamentalist crowd could ever hope to do.
— Kenneth Goze, comments from Column: the Mainstreaming of Pride
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It's only shame if I accept the premise.

It's only shame if I accept the premise.

As I see it, the vice or virtue isn't in the label. It's in how you touch the lives of others. The honor is in giving truth when needed, helping when you can, and leaving the World a little better than how you found it.
— NeoWayland, comments from Column: What of the Christians?
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NeoNotes — Diversity

Diversity of opinion is strongly discouraged.

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NeoNotes — Defending my faith (the long one)

I try to give Christians the benefit of the doubt, mainly because I expect the same. Some make it harder than others. Live and let live works mostly.

For space reasons, this entry has it's own page.

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NeoNotes — accusation

How would I prove that I don't do that?

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Tainted frisson

Politics has tainted paganism in my mind and I am working to re-establish the separation.

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NeoNotes — Perception and symbols

I wonder. If a symbol can be "tainted" no matter what it was used for previously, what does it take to "purify" the symbol?

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Summing up the circus

Here's the quick take for those of you who don't want to dig through the whole internet.

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Old discussions

Links to the TWH comment threads on Gavin Frost and Kenny Klein

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NeoNotes — A long hard look

If it works for you and challenges you to be a better person, more power to you. It is not my place to question that, it's between you and the Divine.

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Slice it

When pagans jump up to recite approved scripts to this week's Officially Designated Outrage, they make paganism look silly.

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In defense of Bonewits' work

If his work can't stand on it's own, people will find something else.

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So much for avoiding the topic

I don't approve of older men having sex with young teens, but it has been happening from the beginning.

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Bonewits accused

“Accusations of abuse surface against ADF founder Isaac Bonewits”

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Defined

My faith isn't defined by my politics.
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Organize

The last thing I want is for anyone to "organize" neopaganism, but sometimes I wonder about the flakes we attract. They confuse our freedom of dogma with freedom from responsibility and consequences. And they believe that they are allowed to impose their own dogma on everyone else.
— NeoWayland, Flake off
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Walk away

I could handle the backhanded compliments and schoolboy taunts.

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NeoNotes — Real religion

Who am I to judge what happens between someone else and the Divine?

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“The Christians and the Pagans”

A great seasonal song

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Difficult truths

There is an old saying that the difficult truths are the only ones that must be told.
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NeoNotes - style and a niche market

American pagans choose something different than the dominant monotheism.

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NeoNotes — Somebody finally said the C word

For all of the evidence of Christian bigotry, there's tolerance and pluralism right there beside it.

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This last week in free speech

I am certainly against Nazism, supremacist groups, and misogyny. I just think they SHOULD be heard, if for no other reason than they can be laughed off the stage.

As loudly and as enthusiastically as we can.”
— NeoWayland
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Absolutely maybe sort of - updated

Now, should I reject Bonewits and all he stood for because he and I didn't agree?

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Political assumption

I do equally find it a cowardly thing to do when I have the strongest feeling that these social justice warrior types could not muster the courage to say this stuff to my face under the fear that they would receive a serious beat down.
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Beyond patriotism

I was coming off a long time of being militantly solitary and I relished the fellowship I finally allowed myself.

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Nutcases

Modern American pagans are especially bad, we tend to celebrate some of our worse nutcases as gifts from the gods.
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No one

But there is no one place where everything thrives.

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Solitary

I made a tiny piece of the planet something that it wasn't before.

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Institution vs. individual choice

There is an arc there: a vector. It tells a story of steadily increasing individual choice about religious belief and expression, and as a result, steadily decreasing subscription to old religious systems that clash with both modern values and humanity's growing body of accumulated knowledge.
— Mark Green, Is Paganism Dying?
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What makes a pagan different?

Now there are a thousand and thirteen pat answers to that question, but that day it got me thinking.

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Intimacy

My views on the pillow talk problem have been professionally validated.

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Speaking of athamés

Chas S. Clifton, one of my favorite pagan writers, has a piece called The Story of Three Athames.

So I'm pointing it out.

You should go read it now.


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NeoNotes — Ecology vs environmentalism

Environmentalism is a crusade with everything that entails.
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Juicy sexy messy

It's as if many American pagans pretend that the roots don't exist.

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Really real pagan

According to some members of the Big Three monotheisms, it's a smear word. Pagans worship multiple gods and haven't evolved enough to worship the One True God®. Of course, they're busy arguing over which One True God® and if this One is an aspect of that One and if this other can be Three-In-One. Maybe a monotheist answer isn't the best one.
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NeoNotes — “J'accuse ...!” - updated

We pretty much agreed that women sometimes lie about rape and the code needed to take that into account. We added one small paragraph that said accusations of rape didn't necessarily mean rape.
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NeoNotes — Which god?

Our nation in particular calls back to the classical Greeks and the Roman Republic.

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What does that have to do with greeting the sun?

Thinking by blogging

I can let it warp my life, or I can do the thing I decided years ago.

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ugh-politics

Most importantly, my faith is not political.

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Signs

We pagans have become the worst that we saw in the People of the Book.

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Revising my expectations

I can no longer recommend The Wild Hunt as a news site.

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Billboards

These are from thirteen or fourteen years ago I think.

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Neighborhood pagan

How we treat our culture may be the second defining mark of an adult

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NeoNotes — Witchcraft as rebellion

She is a parasite who is capitalizing on tragedy

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Black & Blue

It's the calendar that has got it wrong

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NeoNotes — SRW

Even that wouldn't matter so much if SRW wasn't just wrong in so much of what she passes off

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NeoNotes — The name thing

… taking a separate name shows dedication to your faith when you are initiated.

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Taproot: Taboo

“Taproots”

Because this post discusses child sexuality, the entry text has been removed from the front page and the category pages. Click the post title above or the link below to load.

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NeoNotes — Nothing supernatural exists

You're thinking of magick as cheat codes that let you get around universal rules.

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NeoNotes — Origin of Wicca

At some point you should go out and find your own way.

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NeoNotes — What witch?

The "Witch Winter Solstice Ritual" in Nylon is populist pap. It's a lot like having Easter using only Cadbury eggs and never once mentioning a resurrection or what it might mean.

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Religion and politics

When I started blogging, I separated my political stuff from my pagan stuff. I did it after a lot of soul searching. It would have been so simple to wrap everything into a giant ball of victimhood and blame the world for my troubles.
— NeoWayland
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Collecting pelts

Thinking by blogging

No, it wasn’t responsible. No, I’m not proud of it. And yes, it lasted longer than it should have with me.

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Earth centered

More and more I think I was wise to separate my pagan blogging from my political blogging.

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A dangerous pagan

I think that a Greater Pagan Community™ for the sake of the institution is a extraordinarily Bad Idea®.
— NeoWayland
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Political pagans

You can see that politics corrupts pretty much any religion, faith, or path you’d care to name.

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Take the power

Pagans and Pagan groups will never be taken seriously if the only social power we can claim is because we are threatened and oh so very put upon. Stars above and Earth below, do you really think that your Gods want you to exist as a victim and only at the sufferance of others?

Take the power that is your Divine right, look the bullies straight in the eye, and proudly claim your humanity and Paganism in that order. You don't have rights because you are a Pagan and because you have to be protected. You have rights and privileges because you are HUMAN.

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Caution - Watch Out

This is not the first controversy with Mr. Day. I do not expect it to be the last. Frankly I don’t care if he is innocent or not. He disrupts.

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Naked pagans & sex - updated

Pagans do not “get nekkid” so you can get your jollies.

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Outstanding

The cowards do not deserve to be remembered.

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Religion

I think too many people are into religion for the politics.

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Hermit and the noise

You shouldn’t listen to the folks in the weird clothes and making the loudest noises.

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No dissent, or The content of his character

So Rhyd just made the entry tier of my Watch List.

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Earth Day & politics

Inspire, don’t require.
     — NeoWayland
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Statement on the Environment

I mentioned some of my concerns, but their future is full of utopia and collective effort.

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Bestest

You don’t have to use the Bestest as long as you can just do

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Do Be Do Be Do

Speaking of the way that one idea links to another, I can’t help but notice a conflict. And a song.

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Don't mix religion with politics

If it’s bad when the People of the Book do it, then why on Earth is it a good idea when neopagans do it?

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Homework assignment

Morality ought to be filed under Philosophy, not Religion.
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“But you’re so rational!”

“Do you believe, you believe in magic, 'cos I believe, I believe that I do”

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Semi-hermit

Thinking by blogging

Separation of faith and politics

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Listen and consider

Not official but important

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Revealed!

I keep my politics separate from my faith

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The Pope and his Pagan Christians

It has nothing to do with American neopagans

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By Your Own Name

Thinking by blogging

Beware the Egos

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Okay, rain break over

The piece I should have done Tuesday

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On that Pagan community thing

An idea worth exploring

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Right or Write

Thinking by blogging

The decline of the written language

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I'm going to leave it alone

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On Pagan Rights

Ranting

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Community and being a Proper Pagan

Another look at one of my common topics

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Eyes open and watching carefully

We have the future we make, nothing more and nothing less

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Characters

Pagan isn't the important part

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Yesterday's news…

doesn't touch tomorrow's promise

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Pagans against sexual abuse

A statement is close to the final version

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On Pagan Leadership

Build them up

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A funny

Juliaki told me one of her continuing adventures

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The Authority Problem

I'm willing to start at mutual respect. Not everyone is. That creates a problem.

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Progressively regressive

A rare political rant on my Pagan blog

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The roots of the Old Breed

Could it be the biology?

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Why do I do it? Internet debates, emails, and online Pagan groups

I am what I am - updated

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Avalon Cares redux

Corrected web address

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On Christians and Pagan tolerance

Long, involved, but some good points

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October - updated

Evil spelled backwards is live. And that's what I do.

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Packing away the memory

Sometimes passion is obsession

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“We are the Pagans who have moved on”

Inspiring words

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Groups

How many groups really are about the gods and the magick?

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So what's a Technopagan anyway?
And what do they yearn for?

Almost four years on this blog and I hadn't answered these questions yet - UPDATED

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Of gods and men
(updated)

I don't bow unless I respect

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Sex & the Modern Pagan

What I believe and what I think is accepted in the larger “pagan community”

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Why a Technopagan?

Tuesday musings

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Depression and the Modern Pagan

Rambling on moods and modernity

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Love on the rocks

Moving from the politically correct

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Is the weirdness really wyrd?

Enabling behavior and tolerating the special people

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The Old Breed

From classic philosophy to classic virtue, Paganism's best hope depends on what we choose to put out in the World - updated

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Observing what others think of “Pagan Community”

Why is it that the noisiest ones get to define the community?

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Lost Wonderers

Another class of seekers

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Flake off

The Return of the Playgans

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Correllian ripples

The "fastest growing" becomes one of the fastest collapsing

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Witchschool.com no longer affiliated with Correllian Nativist Church International

Public service message

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“Here I come to save the Day”

Why do some Pagans believe they are destined to save the world?

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Discipline, the Modern Pagan, and power from victimhood

What makes the so many modern pagans fluffy? And why don't they seem to want more?

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Eclecticism, Discipline, & Mastery

Look before you leap

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In the still of the night

My journey to and from a funeral reminds me of the world outside artificial light

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Evangelism

Fundamental principles

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Reflections in a laptop screen

Contemplating modern paganism and my own faith

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On Being Not

The perils of using what we aren't to define what we are

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Paganism is not political

Faith is a personal choice. So are politics. One does not define the other.

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Otherkin

The first Otherkin essay popped up at Witchvox. How is this going to change the Neopagan movement?

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The need for mystery

Another conversation with Juliaki

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Religion and popular culture

Conversation with Juliaki

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Facing the True Believer™

Emotional vs Rational Discussions

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Memorial Day musings

Some of my thoughts concerning the military and honor

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“We've got trouble my friends…”

An excuse to embrace victimhood, or a reason to seize our own power?

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Spells for Democracy?

Isaac Bonewits is calling for spells to change the outcome of the Senate vote on judicial filibusters.

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Calling yourself pagan

Part of an IM conversation I had with Juliaki tonight. You might find it interesting.

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